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By Phaedrus
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Ryan wrote:
Phaedrus wrote:I don't see how backing out of international agreements is taking a leadership position. Seems to me like we are losing friends pretty rapidly.

That's because what's in America's best interest is not your top priority. You are a global socialist. It's that simple.


Everything is simple to you.
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By Phaedrus
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Ryan wrote:
Stinky Pete wrote:I don't see how we're leading anything globally in any way. Can you give me an example?

What's the point of doing that? You won't agree anyway.


To show you are speaking from facts.
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By Stinky Pete
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Ryan wrote:Trying? LOL that's hilarious. yeah we're out, get used to it. Again you don;t understand Trump. It's all about positioning. So I wonder will the others continue the push for environmental marxism without us? Of course not, we are the target in this Ponzi scheme. They will either beg or just wait for the next moron leftist to assume the reigns of power. For heavens sake I hope the world doesn't end while they wait, it's going to be at least 15 years before the leftists get their heads out of their arses.

"people", that's a pretty broad term. so I guess technically that can be said to be true. In reality, his policy is to target ILLEGAL ALIENS and RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS with EXTREME VETTING (it's called, with index to thumb)EXTREME VETTING. But the wacko leftists in this country (including the extremist federal judges that use the bench as a weapon) seem to think it will benefit America if we allow them in, because that way we won't be considered racist. And that is of paramount importance.

They forget that the point of immigration is to improve America, not make it some sort of charitable bastion for the world's losers.


You're throwing out a lot of words there, but none of them say how he has made or is attempting to make America more of a world leader. It seems that you equate isolationism with global leadership. They're opposites.
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By Stinky Pete
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Phaedrus wrote:
Ryan wrote:
Stinky Pete wrote:I don't see how we're leading anything globally in any way. Can you give me an example?

What's the point of doing that? You won't agree anyway.


To show you are speaking from facts.


Just one example would really help.
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By Ryan
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Stinky Pete wrote:
Phaedrus wrote:
Ryan wrote:
Stinky Pete wrote:I don't see how we're leading anything globally in any way. Can you give me an example?

What's the point of doing that? You won't agree anyway.


To show you are speaking from facts.


Just one example would really help.

Help? What, help you fabricate a rebuttal? I have no interest in persuading you that Trump is a leader. It's pointless. You are not driven by logic, you are driven by ideology.

I have plenty of examples that I have used to formulate my opinion. He is. I know it. And couldn't care less of you believe it.
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By Phaedrus
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That's funny. Giving an example will show that you are operating from logic and not ideology, the very thing you accuse us of.

Again, I would remind you that I have always despised Trump, not because he is a capitalist, or a member of a particular political party, but because he just oozes dishonesty and sleaze, even more than the Clintons. Now he is President and his incompetency is there for all to see. I understand you want to give him a chance, but isn't it implied that he needs a chance to grow into the job; that he is, in fact, not ready?
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By Phaedrus
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Ryan wrote: ...it will benefit America if we allow them in, because that way we won't be considered racist. And that is of paramount importance.

They forget that the point of immigration is to improve America, not make it some sort of charitable bastion for the world's losers.


I agree with your last statement. We do need to revamp our immigration laws to focus more on economic outcomes like increased productivity and investment. However, the judges are not being activist. They are interpreting the law as it now stands.

It is not because we want to be seen as not racist, it's because our old immigration laws were explicitly racist and were struck down as unconstitutional. The lottery system was instituted to avoid that.

We also instituted a policy of being more focused on benevolent things such as family reunification. It's Congress that needs to come up with new regulation. The SCOTUS is just applying current law and the spirit of that law.