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Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:23 pm
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Phaedrus
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EXCERPTS FROM THE LINK:
1. The November figures would have actually declined year-over-year had it not been for Hostess Brands eliminating 18,500 jobs as the iconic maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread received court approval to liquidate the business and sell its brands.
2. Still, unless the pace of announced layoffs picks up notably in December, the total number for 2012 is still 13% lower than 2011’s January-November running total of 564,297.
Things have improved but it never looks that way when people only post the bad news.
Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:05 am
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Citigroup announced plans to cut 11,000 jobs as it restructures.
_________________ It's not that what you say is wrong, it simply a matter of perspective.
Walter E. Williams, professor of economics at GMU, stated "Government income redistribution programs produce the same result as theft. In fact, that's what a thief does; he redistributes income. The difference between government and thievery is mostly a matter of legality
Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:13 am
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Phaedrus
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If you're one of the lucky 11,000 employees whose holidays just got ruined by Citigroup, here's some cold comfort: You'll have company soon enough.
Citigroup, once upon a time the biggest bank in the U.S., but shrinking steadily, on Wednesday announced it was laying off 11,000 workers around the world, or about 4 percent of its 260,000-human work force.
Investors cheered the news, pushing Citigroup stock up a whopping 6 percent, which surely made new CEO Michael Corbat happy. On a tropical island somewhere, former Citi CEO Vikram Pandit, recently defenestrated without ceremony, was maybe scratching his head, wondering why he didn't get that kind of love from investors when he slashed jobs. As MarketWatch's David Weidner notes, Pandit was no slouch in that department, cutting 73,000 jobs at the time of the crisis and shedding $250 billion in assets since then.
Still, Corbat has only just begun to cut: Citigroup, the O.G. Too Big To Fail bank, is still way too big. Revenues across the banking sector are down and don't seem in a hurry to get back up, what with the sluggish global economy and regulatory crackdowns and low interest rates and what-not.
Investors weren't driving the stock price higher on Wednesday because they thought the bank's problems could be boiled down to 11,000 people, people who were probably on the lower end of the Citi pay scale anyway. They were cheering the layoffs because they demonstrated a willingness to do even more.
"Net-net: this is a decent start by the CEO," Mike Mayo, a bank analyst at the brokerage firm CLSA, wrote in a research note. "Yet, we view this move as an initial 'tremor' and that an 'earthquake' or more radical restructuring is needed before the April 16th annual meeting."
There's the rub: Citi investors have been suffering for a long, long time, with the bank's stock price essentially flatlined since the crisis. Shareholders fairly quickly lost patience with Pandit's efforts to turn the bank around, taking the unusual step of rejecting his $15 million pay package at the 2012 annual meeting.
Citi may be trimming fat, but it wasn't averse to letting Pandit leave with a big bonus. They were stingier to the people who lost their jobs today, according to Charlie Gasparino at the Fox Business Network. He reports that Citi timed the layoffs to avoid having to pay bonuses at the start of the year. Unfortunately, that's something of a Wall Street tradition.
Gasparino also reports that other banks are planning year-end layoffs. That, too, is not surprising; the too-big-to-fail set still has a lot more downsizing to do.
Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:29 am
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eriknben10
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:51 am Posts: 1678
Awwww, let us all feel sorry for the folks that got caught up in greedy bank scams. Lets not forget those folks that lost there homes while the banks were running there ponzi scheme in the housing markets. All thanks to corupt, greedy GOVERNMENTS. The banks were forced into it by government regulation. Gee I wonder which administration made those laws?
_________________ It's not that what you say is wrong, it simply a matter of perspective.
Walter E. Williams, professor of economics at GMU, stated "Government income redistribution programs produce the same result as theft. In fact, that's what a thief does; he redistributes income. The difference between government and thievery is mostly a matter of legality
Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:54 am
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Don't forget all these CEOs that get millions of dollar bonuses while these employees are laid off. Hostess ring a bell? Citigroup? The list continues. Greed f yeah!
Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:59 am
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eriknben10
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:51 am Posts: 1678
My point exactly. And the governemnt is the greediest of them all. They vote thereselves big bonuses, exempt themselves from all programs we are forced into and can have the audacity to stand in front of the American people and say it is for our own good!
_________________ It's not that what you say is wrong, it simply a matter of perspective.
Walter E. Williams, professor of economics at GMU, stated "Government income redistribution programs produce the same result as theft. In fact, that's what a thief does; he redistributes income. The difference between government and thievery is mostly a matter of legality
Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:51 am
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Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:53 pm Posts: 4497
We haven't seen the best part yet. Just wait with Obama Care and all the other taxes kicking in the economy will be swiming along nicely.Look it's simple ,Until the folks get fed up...
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Post subject: Re: Lay off notices since Election Day
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:17 pm
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Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:53 pm Posts: 4497
Phaedrus wrote:
EXCERPTS FROM THE LINK:
1. The November figures would have actually declined year-over-year had it not been for Hostess Brands eliminating 18,500 jobs as the iconic maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread received court approval to liquidate the business and sell its brands.
2. Still, unless the pace of announced layoffs picks up notably in December, the total number for 2012 is still 13% lower than 2011’s January-November running total of 564,297.
Things have improved but it never looks that way when people only post the bad news.
So if that's true ,the tax breaks where working after all .Yet we are no where close to where we need to be. Wonder how that will change moving FORWARD.
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